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THEY’RE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING A NEW BUFFY MOVIE WITHOUT JOSS WHEDON OR SARAH MICHELLE GELLAR?!

THIS.

MEANS.

WAR.

...Such were my thoughts, one cold November eve, as I picked up my trusty can of kerosene and made for the door, humming an ominous chorus of “A la lanterne.”

But I before I made it to the street one last link chanced to catch my eye. Instead of the writer-bot sent from the future to destroy all we hold dear, here was a surprisingly young screenwriter saying:

“I always  watched 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer.' That was the one show I would watch when I got home. I just loved this character. I was the same age as Buffy, and it was so rare to have a female lead character on TV in those days who was strong and capable and smart but also allowed to be feminine.”

A young writer... who grew up with the show... and sounds kind of obsessed... same age as Buffy... wants to write her very own Buffy story... oh. Oh!

So it’s fanfiction. And then I relaxed.

...a bit.

rozk  seems to have had much the same thought at the same time.  

I want to make this clear: I have put the torches and pitchforks down, but not away.

 I remain in constant readiness. I reserve the right, at a moment’s notice, to go on a roaring rampage of ranty justice which may or may not be rationally consistent with what I'm writing now, or with any other logical argument, just because I can and because it’s BUFFY for Gawd’s sake.

But Anderson’s account sounds... familiar. I'm slightly older, and indeed, when I first started watching Buffy, I felt a bit embarrassed. I thought I was too old for it. I was... uh... eighteen. (This is a problem I’ve always had; I thought I was too old for The Little Mermaid when I was ten.)  But, the sly humour, the action,   the improbable fusion between kitschy hi-jinks and aching psychodrama ... there was only so long I could hold out. 

My admiration for Whedon’s work is not unqualified. I have mixed feelings about his feminism. Blonde, nubile, teenage dreamgirl Buffy is a deft yet precarious balance between a male sex fantasy (like the gloriously OTT rescuer of this video)  and a feminist avenger, and it’s a balance I don’t think Whedon has always managed to maintain in his other works, in which sickly sweet, wide-eyed, tottering child-women  sigh and pine and get killed a lot and vacant women’s bodies get bought and sold while the narrative goes “Heheheh hot I mean oh no, BAD AND WRONG hehheh let’s glide the camera up and down her spandex-clad legs some more.”

Feminist issues aside, sometimes his characters get stuck droning out lines on exactly the same arch, glibly “quirky” note until everyone sounds alike.  Sometimes things just don’t make anything like enough sense. Buffy itself unravelled towards the end, I thought Firefly was a mess, albeit a mess with wonderful characters I deeply wanted to see more of and would probably have become something great had it had the chance.

But still,  I know what Anderson means:  Buffy became the show of my late teens and early twenties too. I, too,  "always" watched it.  My carping and nitpicking is a FAN's carping and nitpicking, and the show will always have a significant place in my heart. And in showing that it was possible to combine  adventure, a somewhat out-there premise with real emotional commitment and sincerity, I think it gave me a hint or two about the kind of writing I might want to have a go at doing.

So, on the one hand, I don’t want anyone messing with it. And if Buffy were a novel, if Whedon had been able to keep the copyright from the first film, there’d be no way this new project would be possible. The fact that it this legal loophole is being exploited so soon  feels like an ethical cheat; a big part of me is still yelling, YOU, MADAM, ARE ONE LEGAL TECHNICALITY AWAY FROM BEING LADY SYBILLA, PISS OFF BACK TO LIVEJOURNAL WHERE YOU BELONG.

We’ve had the fanfiction debate (though we’ll doubtless have to have it a bazillion times more). Tl;dr, Fanfiction’s cool, (I’ve written it) but there’s a general agreement that making money out of fanfiction isn’t.

...except for how, eventually, it always is. The lines always get blurred, as Whedon himself wryly notes (in a quite wonderful post about the situation):

“This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths—just because they can't think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself.”

Being kept away from his own creation, whose “corpse” is barely cold. I feel horrible for him. Except...  do I? And are the risks really that bad? Are there actually, any risks at all? As Roz said in her piece:

"[This]is a win-win situation, however personally and professionally galling it is to have his best creation taken away from him.

If the movie crashes and burns, the decision to leave him out of it becomes the reason for its failure; if, on the other hand, it succeeds, he gets the kudos for creating a modern myth so powerful that his stories can be told without his involvement. Actually, we already know the latter to be the case – because fanfiction drawing on Whedon's Buffy and its spin-off series Angel is one of the larger and better-written bodies of such work on the internet.



And... I had thought this was about some suit, heartlessly, soullessly plundering the backlist for anything marked “teen” and “vampire” in order to  squeeze some more juice out of the Twilight audience.  If a new Buffy film is going to happen – and eventually, of course, it will --  then I would rather it was some fangirl with a crazy dream and a story she’s desperate to tell, and the guy from Batman Begins  saying, hey, this kid has something. I'd rather it was fanfiction, which entails some sort of passion,  rather than mere recycling or cannibalising, which doesn't.

Because Batman Begins and The Dark Knight and the new Doctor Who (and arguably, quite a lot of the old Doctor Who) and the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes and the new Star Trek and everything that has ever been done with Greek mythology, including the actual Greek mythology... all pretty much fanfiction, and some of that turned out okay.

...On the other hand, it's too soon!  I only feel really positive about “reboots” when times have actually changed and moved on since the last rendition of whatever-it-is; when one can honestly say, “we need a new [x] for our time.” This is why we do not need a new bloody Spiderman film, for God’s sake, we just had one. And surely, the original Buffy is still the Buffy for our time. Right?  Right?

...but on the third or fourth or hundredth hand, I was first watching Buffy at eighteen, and that, alas, was quite a long time ago, and last time I rewatched it, it actually did seem just a tiny bit... dated...

All right, Ms Anderson, you may proceed.

But watch your back. Things can get  stabby in these parts.

 

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anneth
Nov. 26th, 2010 03:40 am (UTC)
...and it’s a balance I don’t think Whedon has always managed to maintain in his other works, in which sickly sweet, wide-eyed, tottering child-women sigh and pine and get killed a lot and vacant women’s bodies get bought and sold while the narrative goes “Heheheh hot I mean oh no, BAD AND WRONG hehheh let’s glide the camera up and down her spandex-clad legs some more.”

Oh my god YES to this. I still get angry when I watch that scene in the Firefly pilot where Whedon films Morena Baccarin giving herself a sponge bath. Because the man behind the camera calls himself a feminist, it's doesn't count as objectification? Ugh.

But, like you say... it's soon but maybe not too soon? I remain cautiously optimistic.
sophiamcdougall
Nov. 26th, 2010 01:22 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes, I think the "I am a feminist; ergo EVERYTHING I DO is feminist and completely hunky-dory by definition and instinct" equation is at the heart of all the problems he has around these issues.

I have such problems with Inara.

And Dollhouse, of course. I stopped watching after about episode 9, and I know the second season did move things on a bit, but ...ew. The built-in "ah, but that's the POINT I'm making, and this point JUST SO HAPPENS TO COINCIDE with lots of Gazing at the bodies of women who are quite literally dehumanised..." And that, if I'm not misremembering, FOX of all "people" was on the side of the angels here, pressing to Whedon to make the Dollhouse more villainous, whereas Whedon seemed, at least at first, to think there actual arguments in favour of what they were doing...

I'm probably oversimplifying; I know the show had its interesting aspects. But it left such a bad taste in my mouth (and it tended to bore me, which is worse.)
anneth
Nov. 26th, 2010 07:04 pm (UTC)
Never actually watched Dollhouse because the entire premise gave me serious creeps. I hear it got less creep-inducing towards the end of its run, and I'll probably watch it someday....
sophiamcdougall
Nov. 26th, 2010 09:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah... I wouldn't say "don't watch it", but I would say... it's not that different from what you think. At least not to begin with, and I don't think the change in direction later in its run undoes what came before. And the fact that so many of the characters are bouncing around still spouting the arch, quippy, Whedonese is for the most part really jarring.
(Anonymous)
Jul. 27th, 2011 10:56 pm (UTC)
Watching Dollhouse, I got the distinct impression that one of its core ideas was that everybody is complicit in the activities of the Dollhouse, including the viewer (do you *see* because the Dollhouse caters to people's fantasies, just like it caters to *your* fantasies when you watch it, aaaaah...)

Once I realized this, it struck me that the only sensible response to the show was to stop watching it.

-- Dan Hemmens
sophiamcdougall
Jul. 31st, 2011 01:46 pm (UTC)
That is an all too apt a description of Dollhouse, and I stopped watching it too.

Also the fantasies I was supposedly being complicit in never seemed remotely like mine.
dolorosa_12
Nov. 26th, 2010 04:36 pm (UTC)
I heard about this a few days ago, and my initial reaction was much the same as yours ('to the barricades, my friends!'). I'm afraid I'm not nearly as charitable as you are, however much the new writer's story mirrors my own teenage experiences growing up with Buffy (although in my case it was a bit strange, in that I watched the series when it came out, when I was aged 12-19, and then rediscovered it at age 21 and found that Season 6 spoke way too much to my own experiences).

I don't know, I tend not to like remakes or changes of media of any kind, so I tend to just steer clear of them.
sophiamcdougall
Nov. 26th, 2010 05:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I won't try to talk you round -- the above is as far as I'm prepared to go in the direction of "charity". I remain very conflicted! It just gives me some hope to discover that the writer is a fangirl and there is, from the look of it, some actual love involved in the project.


I don't know, I tend not to like remakes or changes of media of any kind, so I tend to just steer clear of them.


What about The Dark Knight... Battlestar Galactica, etc, etc, though?
sophiamcdougall
Nov. 26th, 2010 05:59 pm (UTC)
I'd feel readier for this in another ten years...
aquila1nz
Nov. 30th, 2010 03:59 am (UTC)
Yeah, I said similar things. I can't celebrate fanfic and hate on every reboot. And I've been proven wrong when we've dismissed remakes sight unseen in the past. New Buffy gets a chance. http://www.flagshiptv.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=11&func=view&catid=19&id=1489#1496
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